Ask Leo! #709 – How Do I Clean Up After Windows Update?

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How Do I Clean Up After Windows Update?

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I’d love to see a tutorial for removing the many gigabytes of useless trash left behind from Windows updates.

It seems that even when it works, people still aren’t happy with Windows Update.

This is one of those questions I get from time to time perpetuating myths about Windows Update that I’d like to clear up. Yes, there’s quite possibly disk space to be had, but not as much as you might think, and not for the reasons you think.

 

It’s not “many gigabytes”…

… but it can be a few. It really depends on how much you think qualifies as “many”, I guess.

On the random Windows 10 installation I looked into, the size of the c:\Windows folder was 14.5 gigabytes.

Size of a Windows Folder

The “WinSxS” (Windows Side-by-side) folder, where duplicate copies of files are left for reasons I’ll explain shortly, accounted for almost exactly half of that.

WinSxS size

Now, I don’t mean to be flip, but on today’s drives, where anything less than a terabyte might be considered “small”, those seven gigabytes account for less than 1% of the total space on the drive, and include much more than just the files that can be removed. As we’ll also see below, only a fraction of that can actually be cleaned up.

I realize that not all machines have “today’s drives”, and that for some, seven gigabytes may be more significant than for others, but before we go cleaning things up, we also need to understand that these files are left behind for a reason.

It’s not useless

Windows Update leaves files behind for two important reasons: uninstall functions and system file protection.

If you have a problem with a specific update, in order to be able to uninstall or “roll back” that update, you need to have the previous version of whatever was replaced available. As a result, Windows Update does not generally delete the old copies of what’s been updated.

Disk Cleanup Warning

In that same vein, the System File Protection (SFP) feature introduced several versions ago keeps a set of duplicate files that can be restored if the system detects that the original file in use has somehow been damaged. This is considered a security feature, as one of the ways malware commonly operated in the past was to hide inside system files by modifying them. SFC detects this and replaces
the modified file with the original.

It’s (mostly) not trash

I don’t consider the files Windows Update leaves behind as trash. The files are there for a reason, and serve an important function.

You’d probably be more upset if you had a problem with an update that you then couldn’t uninstall.

However, it’d be an understatement to say that Windows Update isn’t perfect. It has most definitely had its issues in recent years, though most relate to working at all, or to the updates themselves.

One area I expect Windows Update might leave actual “trash” behind would be temporary files that don’t get deleted when it completes its operations. Not only is this not at all unique to Windows Update, we have tools built in to Windows to help take care of this.

You don’t need a tutorial

In Windows 10, you don’t need a tutorial or even a tool to clean up Windows Update.

All you need is some patience.

As described in Microsoft documentation “Clean Up the WinSxS Folder”:

Windows 10 and Windows Server 2016 automatically reduce the size of the WinSxS folder […] Previous versions of some components are kept on the system for a period of time, allowing you to roll back if necessary. After a period of time, these older components are automatically removed from the installation.

That period of time? About one month. Windows 10 will do something along the lines of what you’re asking if you simply wait a while.

Naturally, that’s my recommendation: do nothing. Let Windows 10 take care of Windows 10 (this actually applies to Windows 8 as well).

You can use a tool

If you’re running Windows 7, you can run the Disk Cleanup tool, which has an item specifically to clean up Windows Update. It’ll warn you that you won’t be able to roll back any updates after having done so, but that’s the price for cleaning up these files.

If you’re impatient and running Windows 10, that same “Clean Up the WinSxS Folder” article includes some command line tools that let you force the issue.

I did so, and at it’s most aggressive, of the seven gigabytes in WinSxS, it deleted a grand total of 1.5GB. The remaining files are considered important to Windows operation.

Honestly, that was hardly worth the effort.

Don’t forget Windows.old

Ironically, many folks who complain about files left behind by Windows Update still have their Windows.old folder lying around. That’s often much larger.

Much like Windows Update files, Windows.old is left in place after a system update (say Windows 7 to Windows 10) in case there are files you need to recover from the old installation. In some cases, I believe it’s also used to revert to the prior operating system version, if that option remains.

This is what I’d consider “low hanging fruit” that is both easily and safely deleted.

First, back it up. Make a backup image of your hard drive, or back up the Windows.old folder and everything it contains. This way, even if you need it later, you’ll have it, albeit in a slightly less convenient form.

Then delete it from your hard drive using the “Clean up system files” option in the Windows built-in Disk Cleanup utility.

Disk Cleanup - Old Windows Version

As you can see above, removing Windows.old on my example machine will clear up 24.2GB — much more space than anything possible with Windows Update.

The Disk Cleanup tool is, in fact, the only tool I’d recommend for this type of thing. As you can see, there are other things it can clean up for you as well, including “Temporary files” — aka the “trash” I alluded to earlier.

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How Can I Automatically Reply to Spammers To Tell Them to Stop?


Can I set up an automatic email reply to all the [BULK…] emails I get telling them that such are not being received at my email address? Would it be advisable to do so; I get few if any that inform or provide any useful info. Or perhaps I need to ask “what is the best way to deal with [Bulk…] emails other than one by one?”

I’m going to assume that by “BULK” you mean unsolicited email, more commonly called

spam
Spam refers to unsolicited email you don’t want. The most obvious examples of spam are unsolicited commercialemails, such as ads for porn, drugs, or body enhancement products.
There are two significant
qualifications to spam:
  • You didn’t ask for it. An email that offers college degrees or cheaper mortgages from a person or a business that you’ve never communicated with would probably qualify as spam.
  • You don’t want it. When you receive it, you’re likely to delete it unread based on the subject line.

Spam is tricky. Some email programs and services  automatically filter spam based on common key words, the number of people the message is being sent to, or the sender’s reputation. Some also allow you to flag messages as spam.
Unfortunately, any email that people don’t want runs the risk of being marked as spam. If an email newsletter that you signed up for changes its focus into something you don’t want, it might legitimately be considered spam.

” >spam: email you never
signed up for and you simply don’t want.

Never, ever reply to spam. Period.

It won’t help, and will more likely make things worse.

So, while I suppose you could set up an automated reply, that’s not what I’m going to show you.

Instead, let me explain why replying to spam — automated or manually — is a really, really bad idea.

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How Do I Print Pictures from Websites So They Look Good?


I would like to know the simplest way to print a small to medium image from a web page and have it print out as a crisp picture to fit an 8-1/2″ by 11″ sheet.

This is a simple question that turns out to have both a very simple and a fairly complex answer.

The simple answer: you can’t. Not most of the time, and not with what you’re asking for.

The complex answer, of course, is: it depends.

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